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 Idea to fight the spammers 
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Well I've been playing Phobos for about a day now. I've noticed that the game has some bad lil noobits who like to ruin everyones experience and spam. I found out that the IP ban wasn't working and I came up with a idea to not only ensure the IP ban works but to have it as backup incase the IP ban breaks down again.

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Fix the IP ban system to not only look for the IP but also a cookie or someting secretly placed somewhere on the computer (That goes away when you uninstall the game.)

To get this to work there would be some work required (Not sure how much). Mainly it would be making a installer for the game so the "secret" file will be on the computer and coding the IP Ban system to look for the "secret" file. I'm not 100% sure that this plan is fool-proof or even possible but I just thought it would be nice to see.

This may sound mean but please only people who have something worthile to say reply to this. I do not wish for any, "Nice idea." or, "Stupid idea/it won't work." To me that is all just rubbish and wastes everyones time.

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June 19, 2007, 04:50:45 AM
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Well, what hinders them from reinstalling the game? :P

but well, there will be a installer on the official release, but I don't think they will be doing one for the testserver just yet, since thisway it makes it a whole lot easier for Zero to handle the client.

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June 19, 2007, 06:28:58 AM
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Homeless wrote:
Fix the IP ban system to not only look for the IP but also a cookie or someting secretly placed somewhere on the computer (That goes away when you uninstall the game.)


This is defined as spyware.


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As long as you let the people know that it will be on I see no problem with spyware.


June 19, 2007, 03:21:58 PM
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Or make every client have a diffren ID xD Once blocked never ever again useable xD


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Are they even IP banning right now? I think they're just bannin specific users.

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Ownalot wrote:
Or make every client have a diffren ID xD Once blocked never ever again useable xD

Just re-download?

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June 19, 2007, 07:20:46 PM
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what about that thing tibiabot ng has... Hardware fingerprint


June 19, 2007, 08:11:34 PM
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not sure if its possible, but can you block the Mac Address (or physical address or w/e [i think thats what its called]) Because I'm pretty sure that can NOT be changed without making a hardware replacement.

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June 19, 2007, 08:17:34 PM
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Crank wrote:
not sure if its possible, but can you block the Mac Address (or physical address or w/e [i think thats what its called]) Because I'm pretty sure that can NOT be changed without making a hardware replacement.


that's what we are planning to do. Though there are some complications the way of reading a Mac Address has changed thrue years so those who use old computers need a different way


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Its a good idea :roll:


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Hasn't it been some time since they changed the way Mac Address's are written? Otherwise, idk what to suggest :P

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@Gecko

That's not spyware... Spyware collects information about your computer (most of the time), and (as the name states) acts like a SPY. Many programs place their configuration files in the WINDOWS directory, so the user can't find it as easy...

All he wants to do is make a file (most likely in %windir%) that has a byte stored in it, which the client reads, and checks to see if he's allowed to login/use the client.
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Downside of this is the filesystem watcher, you can monitor your HD procedures, that includes writing/reading/creating/deleting/modifying. If you monitor it before you get banned, you will get a notifcation that the file was updated, you will recieve the contents before the update and after the update, you will also recieve the file path.

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Jason wrote:
@Gecko

That's not spyware... Spyware collects information about your computer (most of the time), and (as the name states) acts like a SPY. Many programs place their configuration files in the WINDOWS directory, so the user can't find it as easy...

All he wants to do is make a file (most likely in %windir%) that has a byte stored in it, which the client reads, and checks to see if he's allowed to login/use the client.
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Downside of this is the filesystem watcher, you can monitor your HD procedures, that includes writing/reading/creating/deleting/modifying. If you monitor it before you get banned, you will get a notifcation that the file was updated, you will recieve the contents before the update and after the update, you will also recieve the file path.


Nono, he said secretly place a file there. It is called malware if it puts things that aren't in supported areas (Application Data is one of the supported areas where developers can put "secret" files) You've got to watch out for liability here.


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Gecko wrote:
Jason wrote:
@Gecko

That's not spyware... Spyware collects information about your computer (most of the time), and (as the name states) acts like a SPY. Many programs place their configuration files in the WINDOWS directory, so the user can't find it as easy...

All he wants to do is make a file (most likely in %windir%) that has a byte stored in it, which the client reads, and checks to see if he's allowed to login/use the client.
-

Downside of this is the filesystem watcher, you can monitor your HD procedures, that includes writing/reading/creating/deleting/modifying. If you monitor it before you get banned, you will get a notifcation that the file was updated, you will recieve the contents before the update and after the update, you will also recieve the file path.


Nono, he said secretly place a file there. It is called malware if it puts things that aren't in supported areas (Application Data is one of the supported areas where developers can put "secret" files) You've got to watch out for liability here.


Accually I said "secretly" (with the quotations). Secretly and "secretly" mean two different things. I called it secret only because you would not tell the user where it goes..However they would still know it is going to be there..


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