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Ctrl + M is just to change mode..

We've got too modes.

mode 1) You walk using the arrow keys and can talk whenever you'd like.
mode 2) You use the ASDW keys for walking and need to press [enter] to talk.

So I don't think you understood CTRL + M ;)

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Post Re: wasd or not?
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Ctrl + M is just to change mode..

We've got too modes.

mode 1) You walk using the arrow keys and can talk whenever you'd like.
mode 2) You use the ASDW keys for walking and need to press [enter] to talk.

So I don't think you understood CTRL + M ;)


That's true, I was so much with Zezenia in my mind that I completely forgot you can still text with enter function. Please accept my apologies :rolleyes:
However, while texting you are still able to use the arrow keys to move right? So if I need to instantly message I am still able to walk.

Also, please still consider my proposal on the last paragraph, IMO it is an amazing idea.

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I kind of agree with Sir Vitor, but I would have to get used with this system... The ony game of this kind i've ever played is Tibia, so...

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June 05, 2013, 02:28:26 AM
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Sir Vitor wrote:
However, while texting you are still able to use the arrow keys to move right? So if I need to instantly message I am still able to walk.

Yes, you can. However, you can't keep an arrow key pressed and type at the same time. Your character will stop walking. Instead you must tap the arrow key constantly and type one-handed in order to move while chatting.

An alternative, that feels much more comfortable in my opinion, is to chat while moving with your mouse. This works in both modes.

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Also, please still consider my proposal on the last paragraph, IMO it is an amazing idea.

This is already being discussed internally ;)

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Till wrote:
Sir Vitor wrote:
Also, please still consider my proposal on the last paragraph, IMO it is an amazing idea.

This is already being discussed internally ;)

Why discuss it? I mean, why not to do it? Would it hamper something else you guys have already planned?

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That's actually a good reason to have customizable hotkeys in the game, like any other MMORPG. That way the user may set his settings the way he wants (for instance some people like to walk using ESDF instead of WASD), and also people could bind any spell to any key they want.

It would be awesome to be able to make the character walk using the numpad or VI keys:

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Numpad:   7 8 9     vi-keys:   y k u
           \|/                  \|/
          4-.-6                h-.-l
           /|\                  /|\
          1 2 3                b j n


Numpad feels very natural for me. VI keys feels natural for programmers and text based graphic adventure players.

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Sir Vitor wrote:
Robbert wrote:
Ctrl + M is just to change mode..

We've got too modes.

mode 1) You walk using the arrow keys and can talk whenever you'd like.
mode 2) You use the ASDW keys for walking and need to press [enter] to talk.

So I don't think you understood CTRL + M ;)


That's true, I was so much with Zezenia in my mind that I completely forgot you can still text with enter function. Please accept my apologies :rolleyes:
However, while texting you are still able to use the arrow keys to move right? So if I need to instantly message I am still able to walk.

Also, please still consider my proposal on the last paragraph, IMO it is an amazing idea.


Apologies accepted :)

You're still able to move with the arrow keys.
@Ricardo, numpad always works. of course ;)

@Sir Vitor and Autran, we will work on key customisation. The question is just how we'll make it work right. It's on the todo, so no worries ;) There are just so many things on the todo that it gets busy ;)

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Ricardo wrote:
Sir Vitor wrote:
That's actually a good reason to have customizable hotkeys in the game, like any other MMORPG. That way the user may set his settings the way he wants (for instance some people like to walk using ESDF instead of WASD), and also people could bind any spell to any key they want.

It would be awesome to be able to make the character walk using the numpad or VI keys:

Code:
Numpad:   7 8 9     vi-keys:   y k u
           \|/                  \|/
          4-.-6                h-.-l
           /|\                  /|\
          1 2 3                b j n




Numpad feels very natural for me. VI keys feels natural for programmers and text based graphic adventure players.

:shock: What are those VI keys of yours? Where do you live? How is your keyboard?

@Robbert
Nice, man.. :)

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I was also wondering what those VI-keys were.. That button layout doesn't really make sense to me. :shock:


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If you follow the link he provided in his post it is quite well explained ;)


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Those were the arrow keys used on some 80's terminal which keyboard had no proper arrow keys.

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Torbjørn wrote:
If you follow the link he provided in his post it is quite well explained ;)

And there was the answer right in front of my eyes and didn't notice it.. How can one be so blind sometimes? xD


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Sir Vitor wrote:
Rob wrote:
Just a quick update on this: Robbert added Ctrl-M as the hotkey to toggle between chat modes.


Nice! That was the fastest response to a proposal I've ever seen :P
EDIT:
However, not wanting to bother to much, I think CTRL+M isn't very good because you need to raise your hand from the mouse to press it, so if you are in middle of something dangerous and needs to instantly reply to someone you would have to remove your hand from the mouse what could possibly be bad. If it was closer and you would do it with the left hand (ex.: ctrl+V) it would be easier.
This is no big deal, just a point of view, not sure if it really matters. We can only verify that by playing the game under real circumstances.

That's actually a good reason to have customizable hotkeys in the game, like any other MMORPG. That way the user may set his settings the way he wants (for instance some people like to walk using ESDF instead of WASD), and also people could bind any spell to any key they want.


The purpose is to toggle between the chat modes. If you're in a hurry and need to send a message you'd just enable the chat in WASD mode, and not necessarily toggle to arrow-key mode first.

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